regarding Starters and Baby-Making

[these_balls]

Three things:

1) SO WE HERD U WANTED SOME OLD STARTERS.

There are now 140.

In addition, because Larvitar are pseudo-Legendary pokémon, they've been given a cap of 10. We've never actually had ten as starters so this should be alright.


2) We've also added the bugs from the swarm-plot to the Availability List, as well as the two found at the Ruins of Alph. You no longer need to contact us about what to find there! We've linked what's there and probably someday maybe we'll find a better way to add it there but until then have that link.

3) PEOPLE WHO BREED, GET OVER HERE!

Two things:
1) Would you all prefer a breeders-specific community in order to keep free eggs and whatnot in order instead of using the OOC community? If so, any ideas for a name or would you like one of us to think of something?

and 2) We've heard from numerous people that there's an excess of eggs. Because of this, it will be capped. Although, we don't want to cap it too high or too low, so I had a question for you guys: How much do you think is too much? This can be in terms of too many eggs per pokémon, per week, from pokémon each week? etc. Anything you can think of, go ahead and list, and feel free to discuss amongst each other as well!

Comments

[little-umeboshi.livejournal.com]

B1 - Brilliance. I love it. :) How about naming it after the Route with the daycare on it?

[little-umeboshi.livejournal.com]

B2 - I haven't actually started in on having any of my characters breed their Pokemon yet-- Tohru is the closest and I was wondering how to handle this myself.

What if there was a set cap Per-Pokemon Per-Month? Since breeding usually seems to happen in bursts (Just from what I've seen of course) it might be better to cap it per two-months though? Either way, I think per Pokemon is best.

Another possibility is a combined cap that limits how man eggs one trainer can end up with collectively-- and then leave the combination up to them, or base it on Pokemon rarity? IDK. Just tossing out ideas.

[dragonspeak]

eggstacy. Putting another vote in for the Daycare centre route.

[puzzling]

BREEDER-YET-NOT-REALLY-SINCE-HE'S-STILL-TRAINER-ON-HIS-GEAR-BUT-ANYWAY!SOUJI IS HERE

and hmmm... I will like to indeed have a breeders-specific community! Seriously, the ooc comm gets cogged up way too much with it when there's a wave and for those who don't care about the eggs, they don't have to watch the it so it won't flood their flist. Suggestions? Uh, sweetbbeggs? eggciting? egglicious? Man, I'm so bad with names so idk...

And for caps, hm, I'm not too sure. I think for each breeder or trainer-turned-into-breeders, they can breed maybe three eggs per Pokemon a week? Just something that can keep them still working in business if that's where they get their income, but it's not too many eggs where it'll flood everyone.

Also, thanks for that starter list, mods! You're doing a great job~

[pastsanity.livejournal.com]

1.) I think it's a FANTASTIC idea, and as for the comm name, route_34 (since the

2.) I honestly disagree with there being a cap or even addressing breeding as the actual problem with the breeding problem at all. A cap would be good, but it'd be hard to manage given how big the game is. Is it first come first serve? Or... yeah, how would that even work? If you don't get your eggs in right away, you have to wait? I'm not sure how a cap would work exactly, so I can't say fully I'd support it. But yeah, SOMETHING has to be done on... some level. At the very least, something can be a comm.

Beyond that, and I'll keep saying it, I think the issue is just that people want Pokemon that they can only get through breeding, so making them available through other means is the way to solve the breeding issue. Limiting breeding won't stop it, people will just wait for their mons or trade the old fashioned way, so really, adding alternatives to getting those Pokemon might be a real way to go. That's just my two cents anyway.

-- Lastly! Looks like most things (Skorupi, Ledyba, Spinarak, and Pineco) from the Bug swarm were spread around, but it doesn't look like Paras and Yanma moved that far, and they were involved too? :|a Just pointing that out.

And glad to see the starters back! Hope to see even more in the future.

[these_balls]

Hmm... 'pokedaycare' is available... /starts a list

So each Pokémon vs each trainer?

What about... a cap on how many depending on the amount of pokémon? Like... if you said three eggs for 1 pokémon, and then a breeder could have 5 pokémon, meaning 15, and then they can choose how to break it up?

[these_balls]

Is that available.......

[dragonspeak]

...let me check

[dragonspeak]

it's takennnn ;o;

[these_balls]

so three-for-three on the breeder's comm.

Hmm... gonna jot that down as well!

[these_balls]

Since that's where the daycare is, I think that's what you mean? LJ ate some of your words there!

As for the breeding cap, we'd make it a limit for the players to manage on their own, and probably a way so each trainer gets an even sort. From what the other suggestions point out, it would be per pokémon, so each trainer or breeder would have an even amount with which ones they breed. An overall cap doesn't feel as productive towards the breeding community as a whole.

But yes, we're going to add more to the availability list or in more swarms. This month ended up as more of a tester month, but with the summer right now we can probably add in more. And we can throw more Paras and Yanma around too. Let me go do that!

[dragonspeak]

...pokeggstacy

[phoenix-temple.livejournal.com]

I'm a little unsure about that community because, like slowpoke_gif, it could be often overlooked. I really don't see why there's a problem putting them on 006 in the first place, especially if you're really going to cap the eggs available.

I don't think there should be a cap in the game, because that's sort of unfair when you have characters like Souji who have a breeding center that puts out how many eggs every so often? He has a lot of pokemon. That's going to make it hard on the people who just want to breed five or six eggs and will get cockblocked in that regard relatively fast.

At the same time, I think it's a good idea to give each player a limit on how many they can breed. My personal rule is no more than 6 eggs per pokemon per month. Since Ken was my only breeder until now, and he only has two Pokemon that would breed, there wasn't exactly a surplus of Pokemon each time.

But when it comes to the more rare pokemon like Dratini, Eevee and the starters, maybe there should be a little more strictness, like how it might take longer for a rare egg to hatch, having fewer at a time--I mean, there has to be a reason why they're so rare in the wild. One egg or two makes more sense than having them breed like wild.

Not all breeders breed all the time, which would make it hard to have a game cap. Some do, sure, like I said, Souji does, but there are characters who breed very, very rarely. And with a game cap, I don't see them having as much of a chance to do their more rare breeding.

[isthedeadcat]

MY BREEDER IS A PERFECTIONIST AND HASN'T BRED A POKEMON EVER SINCE ARRIVING HERE. That doesn't mean it is not on Lion's plans, so uh.

The breeding comm seems to already be on the way so I'm a-ok with it existing.

A cap would be fine too, but it would be nice to not to make it a too small cap. We have like, 300+ characters, so it may be too limiting sometimes.

I'm starting to think that the best cap would be a more specific one. And by that I mean, if a pokemon is rare we can say it is related to its way of reproduction. So certain rarer pokemon make less eggs, so the cap for that pokemon is much smaller than the cap for a super common pokemon like a ratatta or stuff.

But that's me being picky, and that would probably take a whole damn lot of work.

So a cap is fine, yeah. No cap is also fine for me, but that's me being special xD

[these_balls]

The reason we thought of using a new community was so it would be more organized and have all of the breeder-related things in one place. If not enough people want a second community though, we could always make a new tag. But if we did pick a new community, we'd announce it and link it with the acceptance and on the profile so people could find it. There's always a way for either to work! I'm keeping tabs on the votes.

A per-pokémon or per-trainer/breeder cap seems to be a more likely decision! (Everyone seems to like that idea, that's awesome.) I like the idea of restricting the rarer ones to less eggs a month, so that doesn't seem too hard to add at all.

So with Ken, if he had two pokémon breeding six, does he go around three each? Or does it switch depending on circumstances/pokémon? I'm trying to gauge a bit of an estimate.

[phoenix-temple.livejournal.com]

And just as a side note, I do agree that having Pokemon only available by breeding is a big part of the problem, but having Pokemon available in more areas could lead to a couple problems, too. If you label something as "rare," it doesn't mean players are going to necessarily treat them as such. If someone wants a Ghastly for their character's party, they'll catch a Ghastly, regardless of rarity.

And if you get rid of the rarity and throw all the pokemon into the wild, it'll bring up the problem of "where is the challenge?" A big point of the original games are walking through the same patch of grass in wait for that super rare pokemon and crying as it got away or you made it faint. STORY. OF. MY. LIFE. screw you chansey.

Maybe you could work something out to prevent that--having pokemon only showing up in one hard to get to area. I honestly think that what you did with the starters is smart--they're only available in the Ilex Forest, Mount Mortar and the Lake of Rage, if I remember right--it made them somewhat rare in the wild, but still attainable.

... I'm not sure any of that made any sense. I feel like I'm talking in circles.

[darkpulsewaves.livejournal.com]

My breeder hasn't done work yet either lol. But I agree with the breeder community thing.

As for cap, I agree with Lion-mun. If it's a rare, it should be limited and commons ones greater number.

Other than that, I'm not too picky. .-.

[these_balls]

...HMM.

[phoenix-temple.livejournal.com]

I mean, to some extent, it's a good idea. I just think it might become a little redundant if there's going to be hopefully fewer breeding posts. I think a breeding tag on 006 might be just as effective, but that's just how I feel.

Oh, per pokemon per month. Sorry, I might not have been clear. That means he has all of twelve available each month, if they breed. Six Cubones and six Bulbasaur at max. I think the first time I had four Cubones available, maybe five. Really, I think it's something we should already be policing ourselves on, but that doesn't appear to be working. If limits go down based on rarity, I'd personally drop my max amount of eggs to four for Cubone, since they're classified as uncommon, and two or three for Bulbasaur because they're classified as rare.

[foolishwren]

I VOTE IT BE CALLED route_84330












_{or just the route that the daycare is on.}

[phoenix-temple.livejournal.com]

OH AND IF YOU DO IT just for uniformity I think route_366 or route_3665 would be cool :|a

[these_balls]

So another vote for the comm?

That's my goal! I don't want to make it so it's too small because otherwise a lot of people won't have as much fun, but too large would be ineffective. Picking barriers based on rarity will probably work a bit better. I think we'd probably just make it an even deal and let the players themselves watch out for it instead of making it some ridiculous checklist. We trust you guys to keep yourselves from going over.

XD but no cap is too manyyyy

[isthedeadcat]

I'm fine with comm or no comm, since I'd end up watching it in my flist anyway, so I'll let everyone pick xDDD

Rarity based caps sound completely awesome. If you can work with it, I'm all yay for it.

[rooster-shout.livejournal.com]

Breeder here however he just got in so he hasn't had time to start yet. Also I'm fine with a day_care comm

I like the idea of having a pokémon specific egg cap, the amount of egg per pokémon could be rated like this.

Ultra-rare: Pokémon that are pseudo-Legendary, super popular or capped on the Starter list
Rare: Pokémon not normally found in Johto or Kanto
Uncommon: Pokémon you need special means of getting like use TMs and items. Plus pokemon found during weather based swarms.
Common: Pokémon easily found in Johto

Also base some eggs on the how rare they are on the availability chart.

[these_balls]

Oh! I see, so six per pokémon per month. /jots that down

The limit might not necessarily mean the amount of posts goes down, just that it might decrease the amount in each post. But it probably depends on if people like to post them all in a batch or break them down a bit and how often each person posts. SO MANY CONDITIONS, MY GOODNESS!

...I like those names! /notes them too