route_29 | regarding Starters and Baby-Making

Three things:

1) SO WE HERD U WANTED SOME OLD STARTERS.

There are now 140.

In addition, because Larvitar are pseudo-Legendary pokémon, they've been given a cap of 10. We've never actually had ten as starters so this should be alright.

2) We've also added the bugs from the swarm-plot to the Availability List, as well as the two found at the Ruins of Alph. You no longer need to contact us about what to find there! We've linked what's there and probably someday maybe we'll find a better way to add it there but until then have that link.

3) PEOPLE WHO BREED, GET OVER HERE!

Two things:
1) Would you all prefer a breeders-specific community in order to keep free eggs and whatnot in order instead of using the OOC community? If so, any ideas for a name or would you like one of us to think of something?

and 2) We've heard from numerous people that there's an excess of eggs. Because of this, it will be capped. Although, we don't want to cap it too high or too low, so I had a question for you guys: How much do you think is too much? This can be in terms of too many eggs per pokémon, per week, from pokémon each week? etc. Anything you can think of, go ahead and list, and feel free to discuss amongst each other as well!

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Alright, I'm back here after reading the replies here and all.

So, I can see why having another comm can be a mess. We have enough to watch and I can see it also getting neglected. We're not going to have that many entries going in it like everyday or regularly. While I am indeed all for the comm and am more than willing to volunteer in helping setting it up or managing it, if we are at least not going to make the comm, get a breeding tag for the ooc comm. Now, there are concerns I have about that.

For me, if we lump the ooc comm with hiatus, slowatus, intros, drops, hmds, and similar entries then shove the egg posts, it just looks really messy to me. We already have so many entries in the ooc comm and I know that some people don't care at all about this breeding mess. Some people might be more interested in catching Pokemon for their characters instead of breeding, so I believe with a comm, you don't have to watch it at all.

Honestly, no matter which way we go, someone is going to complain. I'm all for a comm, but I don't mind at all having a tag for the ooc comm. Really, it's just a matter of preference.

Now, about the egg cap, I will have to agree with the others who are saying you should place caps on individual Pokemon. I like the groups of the common, uncommon, rare, and so on. I think maybe we can have another a separate post for those groupings on these_balls for people to reference to know how many eggs they are allowed to breed from there in that point of time. The mods do not have to do this alone in sorting them. I'm sure if you ask, people will volunteer to help categorize them and another discussion can go on with what people think of "oh, I think this Pokemon is rare!" "Nah, I think it's more uncommon due to etc etc".

Um, as for trainers-to-breeders. I have to admit, the line that have separated the two classes got really blurred. I mean, look at my Souji. One minute, he's all "POKEMON LET'S BEAT ALL THE GYMS" and the next, he sets up a breeding centre. I think it might be a good idea to have something where trainers can apply for becoming a breeder or being both a breeder and trainer? Though I guess if they want to be both, they should get a special license for that, like make it take longer?

Just my two cents and sorry if it doesn't make any sense! Still sick here asdlkfsd

I agree with this completely and one thing I'd like to contribute is the idea of more jobs for the characters to do. Given that the common thing we are all told, ICly and OOCly is that than pretty much only become Trainers or Breeders. Which is probably why it got blurred so easily! But why not introduce a few things that the later games have? Gen III introduced Coordinators and the spin-off game Pokemon Ranger introduced the Rangers, which turns out to be more than the trainer class.

It'll give the characters more options, really. Not to mention, how about the option to completely settled down in Johto? Open a shop? Pick a city to live and get a day job? I'm not saying these weren't options before but it seems to be like the characters don't know any better since Professor Oak basically tells then GO FORTH INTO THE WORLD AND BECOME MASTERS! Y'know? Not that the characters wouldn't be smart enough to get a 9-5 job and settle down somewhere, but I've hardly seen anyone actually do this either.

Johto is an entirely different world and the anime, the spin-off games, and the normal games show that it's a functional world with people who aren't trainers and breeders. If they all were, it'd be utter chaos!

So, just my two cents here as well <3

I do like the idea of having a special license to be able to breed. But, I know we're not taking about specifics or anything here, I have my doubts about it? I mean, depending on what the process is to get a license to become that sort of gray-area class, I can see ways that people might try to abuse that to become both Trainer and Breeder to be able to get the perks of a Breeder if different caps for the classes get set. If the process is hard, I wouldn't mind it, but it can't be easy to get since you're getting both perks.

Personally, I think a lottery system should be used or something for the people that really want it, and draws can be held every 2/3 months. That way it gives people that want it a good chance and newbies that will stay the time to really think about whether they want it or not.

The only other option I might think about is just to do away with the class system overall. When you think about it, we only really have two classes in use; Trainer and Breeder. We do have Rockets, but they're not around, in use, nor simply have the kinds of numbers that Trainers and Breeders have to really, personally, put a dent in things. I think having more options open (Rangers, Coordinators, and hey, if Souji can open a breeding center, people should be allow to open other establishments too) might help the system out overall. Like giving Route a nice fresh coat of paint :3

Hm, I can see your point! That is one of my biggest problems with it because people might abuse that power to do what both a trainer and breeder can do. I do have to disagree on the lottery system since I have a feeling a lot of people might want to become both so it'll just feel a little sore to wait months and still not get your character to what they want. Though I do think that if we are going this Trainer-Breeder route, we need to have a pretty hard process that will take at least a month of pure dedication. However, your lottery idea does indeed have people a good and equal chance, so if Route does indeed go that way, I won't object to it completely!

And yes, I do think that it's about time that Route can get more classes? I can understand why they will like to keep it to just trainers, breeders, and Rockets since it's just how Johto is as Gold, Silver, and Crystal, but I really think we need more. It seems just so-- for a lack of a better word and my terrible English --rigid to have only three paths to follow. There's lots of characters that will be great coordinators and I know a few that will just jump on the chance to have Pokemon contests or become a Ranger. With this way, characters don't have to feel as forced into their roles and probably drop some of the breeding since there are so much more things to do.

And another note, I would totally love to see more establishments open up other than just Souji's breeding centre! It's really neat to see other characters begin to settle down or start their own little things in Johto, so seriously want to see more. \o\

and God, sorry if this seems all over the place. I cannot think on hiatus 8(

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